I encourage parents to avoid saying no at all costs unless absolutely necessary. And those times, as I said before, are much more rare and we think. I am also aware that I am an outlier in the parenting world. The majority of folks who talk about how to treat kids are operating with one foot still in the old mindset. I advocate for treating kids radically Non-Coercively. To change the old, authoritative, hierarchical paradigm that we have operated from for centuries with children.