I remember reading the interview and thinking it was shite. Now I read this debrief from the interviewer's perspective, and all I can think is that he should have never gone into journalism. You were trying to treat the second-most powerful person in the world as a buddy AND as a token, with a side of misogyny to boot. No wonder she was "difficult." You were, and are, an embarrasment to serious journalism. https://www.nytimes.com/2024/08/28/us/politics/kamala-harris-interviews.html