In response to almost every thread I see from women in regard to men and why this or why that. The most profound insight you may have not yet heard. Above all else, and this is important. Men want peace. When anyone gets in the way of that, anyone gets eliminated. If a woman can use that as a baseline or maybe even promote that in a mans life I PROMISE you'll see different results. I cant speak for little boys, you've got to be able to pick those off immediately but men?Spot on Marinate