@officialevangelistkate actually I don't think it was you I was saying that too that's the problem with threads you don't know if somebody is contacting you because you contacted somebody else and they see your message or if you're contacting them and then somebody else contacts you but have a lovely day or actually at this point in Africa it would be closer to the night and it's early morning here at about 8:00 I really know 7:19 a.m. here in California