It’s a debate because Josh Allen is a baby. He was the only dissenting vote last year keeping Lamar for two unanimous MVPs. He’s jealous and will probably never win a Super Bowl. Turn over king.

who has the 2 seed? who has been breaking records all season? who lead their team to 13-3 on what was supposed to be a rebuild year? who was the only team to beat the chiefs?

Because it is more than just a debate of stats. But either way I think Lamar will receive another one.

It’s a debate because who is doing more for their team. The fact the ravens have Derick Henry allows the ravens to play that much better Josh Allen plays in a worse climate wins games by himself and is throwing to nobody’s. The mvp is not a stat award it’s who is guess what more valuable to the team take away Lamar the ravens could still make playoffs take away Josh Allen the bills would not even be relevant

Record bud??

Last year it was "stats don't matter, it's what Lamar does" this year "doesn't matter what allen does look at the stats!"

Color blind?

You really think having Derek Henry in the back field doesn't open up the run game for him even more? Like don't get me wrong, dude is going off and having a career year but no one was predicting Baltimore to miss the playoffs before the season. Also I think a backup could plug in to the system easier. And oh yeah, by this narrative Allen should have won it last year when he posted better stats and they gave Lamar his second straight.

Now do last year with Lamar, Purdy and Dak. Throw Allen there too.