So guys: when we accept you, we assume you believe you deserve us. And that's a big part of why we decide you DO. If you aren't there yet, stay away from us and get there with yourself. Because we're all tapping out of this nonsense for a reason.

Have women been encouraging to men in general? Or is the message something like "men are unnecessary and obsolete pigs and I choose the bear"? Men are just kind of tired of hearing how shitty women think we are, and we've accepted that's how you all see us. There are places in the world though, where women don't act that way! I can only speak on my experiences in America. A lot of men are using rejection to fuel their motivation to find success elsewhere.

Literally. I've gone on dates with guys i was pretty interested in, but then they were so insecure about something that doesn't matter to me that they were getting almost angry and aggressive about it at every chance they got, it's a huge turn off. There is nothing wrong with being insecure about something, but attacking someone who isn't bothered by it, or may even like said trait, certainly isn't gonna help you out.

….this did not go in the direction I thought it would. Listen, yes, a lot of these guys are in different parts of their life, and I’m sure you’ll eventually find someone mature, but isn’t half the point to grow and heal together? To have a real conversation? What exactly does this have to do with women having a harder time dating? I think we’re missing a detail here of what we’re defining as being difficult, exactly.

The insecurity isnt only cuz ourselves! But when Youve been told by women again and again that youre not good enough no matter how much you try, not mention that you need to earn a certain amount, be a certain height, have your own place etc etc! Ofc it takes a toll on your self esteem I understand you shouldnt attack someone cuz of it either, cuz it just creates an evil cycle that repeat itself and make you feel even more miserable Modern dating is really tough for both sexes

Is that why so many men want to date women who are “out of their league”? They figure if the hot woman wants them, they must be highly desirable themselves?

My anxiety & self-esteem issues stem directly from past treatment by women. When I was at my absolute fattest (350+ lbs) was the first/only time a girl ever asked me out. Didn’t know It was to a pig party where the goal was to find the ugliest most pathetic guy. She won. 8 years later I’m down 130+ lbs & had a lot of self-reflection; but I still often doubt if anyone finds me legitimately attractive. Are you saying I shouldn’t even attempt relationships? ‘Cause that’s how this reads(to me)

Men get to see "women" for all that they are instead of, women being able to hide it, or play it down. The Internet lasts forever, men have high self esteem and are not longer falling for the tricks that allowed women to get away with it in the past. Gas lighting, hiding things, and visits from "Friends".... First the smiles, then the lies, then the narrative of nassicatic men, again and again. Men do not want to "fix it", so they move to where it didn't need fixing.

Not even gonna lie, I thought this was gonna be some total man hating shit. But this is solid and sound and so true (experienced first hand), thank you so much for the breathe of fresh air lol.