I want to say that I don’t blame vegans for thinking they are saving animals from unethical farming. I used to think so as well. Then I became a natural beekeeper and realised that as long as we eat and consume vegetables and fruits produced by large agricultural companies we are part of a system that treats not just honey bees but insects in general unethically, exposing them to horrific chemicals & treating them in real bad ways (queen r0pe etc)